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Boast Busters by J-Mpn Boast Busters by J-Mpn
This took a lot more time to finish than I expected.. I started this last Friday, but due to all errands and stuff that needed to be done, I had very little time to work with this until today.

I don't have much to say about this one. I had two options which I could work with. The one made and the scene where Twilight's horn is sparkling. Ended up drawing this, due to Trixie not appearing later in the series (excluding that of Ponyville Confidential). Trixie is one of the better looking side characters in the series in my opinion. Hopefully she will make a reappearance in the 3rd season.

Original, color only and line art will be where they have been before. Hint: in scraps.
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schneelocke Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2012
Very nice. :)
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RK-Striker-JK-5 Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2012
What must be remembered is that the lie and challenges happened after Dash's heckling. Heckling that happened, what, a minute after she began her stage show? None of the others in the crowd save for Dash, Rarity and Applejack minded Trixie's 'boasting', which for all the hype was simply her trying to get an audience for her show. None of them had to stay if they didn't like it. It was an open-air venue.

As for the Ursa, Snips and Snails got it on Spike's suggestion. And despite her being in a town she had no attachment to, she still fought the beast, knowing she had no chance but still TRYING-which is more, I might add, than what her hecklers did. And they still mocked her for it. "All hat, no cattle," to quote Applejack, who might I say again, did nothing against the beast.

But Trixie did. She tried. And she lost her wagon and everything inside it. Simply because three jackasses couldn't simply turn and walk away.
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ShadowWing09 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013

While Dash's actions weren't appropriate, she DID ask the sensible question: "What makes you so special?" as Trixie's act wasn't living up to her boasting, blatant false advertising. Effectively, she's a charlatan.

 

Also, Dash stopped causing a scene once Trixie made the Ursa claim, but it was Trixie who started making random challenges and taunting the audience. In fact, the first one she tried to pick a fight with was TWILIGHT, who even Trixie's defenders admit hadn't done anything wrong.

 

No "heckling" went on, Rarity made two irritated comments directly in response to Trixie's bragging, and a third comment explaining to Twilight why they were annoyed, and Applejack made ONE comment that was nothing more then an explanation to Twilight as to why they were annoyed

 

Not to mention Applejack only stepped in because Trixie tried to pick a fight with Twilight.

 

To top it off, Trixie goaded Rarity into a confrontation, not the other way around. Heck, Rarity was criticizing Applejack and Rainbow Dash at the time, not Trixie. You'd think Trixie would appreciate the support

 

Trixie did NOT fight the Ursa to protect the town, she did it to maintain her lie, as evidenced by her only stepping in when Snips and Snails reminded her of said lie.

 

Applejack, Rarity, and Dash did not "mock" Trixie, they were explaining to Twilight why they don't consider her a showoff like they do Trixie

 

You called those three "jackasses", but you're ignoring that Trixie was condescending to her customers, rude to her fans, and downright malicious toward those who called her out on being a charlatan, not to mention she talked down to Twilight after Twilight's actions effectively saved Trixie's life.

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1CJB Featured By Owner Edited Sep 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist

Just browsing through Trixie pics when I stumbled across this. Thought I’d respond.

“she DID ask the sensible question: "What makes you so special?" as Trixie's act wasn't living up to her boasting, blatant false advertising. Effectively, she's a charlatan.”

Trixie’s show was literally just beginning when they started making rude and unnecessary comments about her. Read the transcript if you don't believe me. Right after Trixie introduces herself, they complain about her boasting, Dash even boo's her. They were all butthurt from the very start even though they put up with Dash's boasting all the time.

“it was Trixie who started making random challenges and taunting the audience.”

It wasn’t random, I bet she wouldn’t have challenged anyone if the main characters just let her be. The main cast provoked her into doing that.

“No "heckling" went on”

Yes it did. They made rude comments from the start, interrupted her show, they even got up on her stage and tried stealing the spotlight. When you go to see a performance or someone's show, it's not your time to show off, it's theirs. What they did was heckling, and Trixie handled it pretty well.

“Rarity made two irritated comments directly in response to Trixie's bragging”

“To top it off, Trixie goaded Rarity into a confrontation, not the other way around.”

Rarity’s motivation, like her friends, was to upstage Trixie. She got what she deserved.

“Not to mention Applejack only stepped in because Trixie tried to pick a fight with Twilight.”

Trixie didn’t want to “fight” anyone, it was a challenge for the sake of the show, and she didn't force anyone to accept it. Applejack was being butthurt about Trixie’s boasting, so I don’t think she did it to stick up for Twilight, it would be a stupid reason anyway because Trixie did nothing wrong.

“Trixie did NOT fight the Ursa to protect the town, she did it to maintain her lie, as evidenced by her only stepping in when Snips and Snails reminded her of said lie.”

Trixie knew she couldn’t stop the Ursa. So weather it was peer pressure or not, it takes allot of courage to stand up to a monster like a hundred times your size, and she had no obligation to do that. If Trixie had ran away instead of trying to stop it, then I wouldn’t like her as a character nearly as much.

“Applejack, Rarity, and Dash did not "mock" Trixie, they were explaining to Twilight why they don't consider her a showoff like they do Trixie”

They didn’t insult her, but they still acted like jerks towards her even after she became homeless, even after she tried stopping the monster while they did squat. Dash even wanted to run her out of town.

You make Trixie out to be way worse than she is, bringing her to Gilda's level of jerkness and calling her a scammer. I see you complain about Trixie fans downplaying her flaws, but you're essentially doing the same thing by over-exaggerating them. Trixie at her worst was egotistic and self centered, but where have we seen this before? a certain blue Pegasus comes to mind. And she lied, okay so what? all of the mane six have lied or screwed up in some way, and Trixie dropped her persona and admitted to lying.

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RK-Striker-JK-5 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013
Okay, really short here. Heckling did go on. "Magic, schmagic, boo!" All of them were making such comments right in front of her stage, to boot. Rather hypocritical comments considering the three.

Trixie had the means to escape the Ursa Minor and run off. Or cower there... like her hecklers and detractors did. Yes, they did mock Trixie. "All hat, no cattle." Applejack says this after not lifting a HOOF against the Ursa. Trixie, meanwhile, made an honest effort against it. She didn't have to. She did. They didn't. They stood there literally shaking in fright. They ARE jackasses to her.

And Trixie was condescending to... those three. That's about it. No one else took issue with what amounts to advertising for her show, nor showing them up. And Trixie has flaws, yes. She did some wrong... but the wrong done to HER was quite a bit, too.

Oh, and goad or not, Rarity still ripped down Trixie's property and turned it into a dress.
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ShadowWing09 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2013

Two of Rarity's comments were DIRECTLY IN RESPONSE to Trixie's bragging, her third comment and Applejack's ONLY comment were explanations to Twilight, and both of them spoke in a normal tone of voice, with neither of them making any attempt to actually cause a scene or embarrass the performer, as per the definition of heckling.

Dash's comment was inappropriate, yes, but she HAD REASON for what she did, and Trixie certainly made no attempt to take the high ground. Once she made her Ursa claim, she had dealt with her lone "heckler" who was no longer causing a scene. Trixie could have left it at that, as the audience was suitably impressed, but instead she chose to pick fights with random ponies, no even with her alleged "heckler". Calling out a charlatan for scamming their audience =/= heckling.

 

You make it sound like Trixie stood up to the Ursa right away. She didn't. The first thing she did was RUN AWAY so she's not as heroic as you make her out to be. Not that I blame her for not wanting to fight the Ursa, but the fact remains that she and her "hecklers" had the same initial reaction. She only fought the Ursa because her pride wouldn't let her admit to being a fraud. As shown when Snips and Snails reminded her of her claim. It was egotism, not courage that caused her to face the Ursa. Pride causes people to do stupid things, look at Rainbow Dash.

 

Applejack's comment "All hat and no cattle" meant that Trixie can't back up her bragging, which is true Applejack never claimed to be able to defeat an Ursa. How were they being Jackasses? Dash called Trixie a loudmouth, which she is: "a loud and talkative person, especially a gossip or braggart". Rarity said that she's "most unpleasant", which she is, see below. It was Karma, Trixie brought that on herself with her own behavior by being a jackass herself.

 

No, Trixie was condescending to her entire audience: "Anything you can do I can do better" she says to the entire crowd, not just those three. An entire crowd of ponies she's never even met, yet she claims to be better then them at the things that define their existence. You're also ignoring that she was rude to Snips and Snails, who are her fans, twice tried to humiliate Twilight, who had done nothing wrong, and then talked down to Twilight after Twilight essentially saved her life. On the flipside, Trixie was NEVER nice to anyone.

About "no one else taking issue". I can't help but think that's because they're the main characters, they're naturally going to be the ones delivering the message, and of course, receiving the focus. So of course the writers aren't going to show the negative reaction of anyone else, they're not the focus. The writers wanted to deliver an Aesop about bragging, and they needed the Mane Characters to be the one delivering the message.

 

The moral of the episode is: "Don't be a braggart, lest people call you out on it, or you get trapped in your lies", both happened, and it's to be expected when you annoy others by talking about yourself so excessively like Trixie did.

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1CJB Featured By Owner Edited Sep 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Calling out a charlatan for scamming their audience"

Flim and Flam are scammers, Trixie most certainly is not. It was a MAGIC show, ponies came there to see MAGIC and that's what they got.

"How were they being Jackasses?"

Because of their demeanor towards Trixie throughout the episode, and even after she lost her home.

AJ, Dash, and Rarity do nothing but complain about Trixie showing off her magic from the very start, that in itself isn't heckling, but it certainly was when they decided to try and beat the showoff by being and even bigger showoff (going on her stage, interrupting her show, etc). This is what makes them unlikable characters in this episode, they being themselves down even lower than Trixie, and the punishment they receive is far less extreme than the one Trixie gets.

"The moral of the episode is: "Don't be a braggart, lest people call you out on it, or you get trapped in your lies""

From the letter to Celestia: "It's okay to be proud of your talents, and their is a time and place to show them off."
I could argue that a magic show is the perfect time to show off your magical talent.

I don't usually write responses like this, but I just think it's stupid how some people make her out to be such a terrible character.
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J-Mpn Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2012
Hmm.. I guess that Trixie is more powerful than I thought: How else would she have fans that defense her like that?
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ShadowWing09 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013
Fans are so enamored by her hilariously over the top personality that they completely ignore what a massive jerk she is ^_^;
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RK-Striker-JK-5 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2012
Well, she's not perfect, but the vast majority of stuff that happens in the episode really isn't her fault. And she does honestly try to fight the Ursa. And what happened to her was massively disproportionate to whatever she did before.

Also, nice drawing. :)
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